It was over Zoom. My hiring manager did not like to follow his script. He flipped the interview several times. He briefly introduced himself. Usually, they go on and on for a while, but this man did not. He told me to relax and treat the interview like a semi-casual discussion. He asked me how I got into engineering. After I told him some of my childhood escapades, he asked about my university education and my skills. He was very impressed with the breadth of my skills and experience. All these managers are mighty obsessed with your skills as opposed to your internships or degree. Smh. He informally hinted that I would receive an offer when I asked for his email address.